94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Want some new struts? What brand springs to buy? How much camber to run? What brake pads? What's the best setup for your situation....
User avatar
3X00-Modified
Administrator
Posts: 10912
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:18 am
Location: Brooklyn CT

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 3X00-Modified »

Ask Cliff... I could only get one number for one control arm from GMPartsDirect... the control arms are avilable over the counter at a Parts store so no need to get GM unless you think quality is different.

As far as the frame rails go... I highly doubt you'll get those from GM... and if you do I bet you'll fork out over 500 for them.


Mr.Pink
Supreme Unit
Sleepy Goodness
"Beretta Guy"
User avatar
themixer
Registered User
Posts: 1569
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:13 pm
Location: Truro, Nova Scotia. Canada

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by themixer »

i would order from down south they would be your best option


User avatar
3X00-Modified
Administrator
Posts: 10912
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:18 am
Location: Brooklyn CT

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 3X00-Modified »

Info I got from Cliff...

GM still has one rail listed and not sure on control arms.
As for the control arms, they're like this..

L/R - 22611129/22611130 - 94-95 FE1, FE2 - 96 ALL

L/R - 22611131/22611132 - 94-95 FE3

The subframes are..

L/R - 22583875/22637368 - 94-96 All.


Mr.Pink
Supreme Unit
Sleepy Goodness
"Beretta Guy"
90GTZHO
Registered User
Posts: 1068
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:54 am
Location: Paulden, AZ
Contact:

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 90GTZHO »

I love having the 93 and older rails :D


Geoff
95 Base V6: Current Project; Work In Progress
User avatar
3X00-Modified
Administrator
Posts: 10912
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:18 am
Location: Brooklyn CT

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 3X00-Modified »

I have a set too, the structure on those aren't as reliable that's why I'm not switching, I've heard the rear bushings mount area could possibly crack or break free from the rail.


Mr.Pink
Supreme Unit
Sleepy Goodness
"Beretta Guy"
User avatar
ShaneLT(ShaneZ26)
Registered User
Posts: 504
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:27 pm
Location: Leamington, Ontario

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by ShaneLT(ShaneZ26) »

As for the control arms, they're like this..

L/R - 22611129/22611130 - 94-95 FE1, FE2 - 96 ALL

L/R - 22611131/22611132 - 94-95 FE3

The subframes are..

L/R - 22583875/22637368 - 94-96 All.
Which ones are these ones? Are they good?


Image
User avatar
Barry
Global Moderator
Posts: 1871
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:11 pm
Location: Hatfield Pa

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by Barry »

I haven't broken a old style arm yet. Mine are rust free and seam welded.

I think vertical bushings are a bad design. They defiantly promote wheelhop, too much poly to flex in the front to back back motion


User avatar
ErichZ26
Registered User
Posts: 922
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:59 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by ErichZ26 »

I was just looking at 98-04 STS and the fronts are plastic and the rear are rubber. If you want something a bit more aggressive the rears on these could be made from the plastic i am using for rear suspension. The durometer is going to be greater than using the softer urethane.


I will try to get photo's of the STS suspension today.


User avatar
3X00-Modified
Administrator
Posts: 10912
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:18 am
Location: Brooklyn CT

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 3X00-Modified »

Barry wrote:I haven't broken a old style arm yet. Mine are rust free and seam welded.

I think vertical bushings are a bad design. They defiantly promote wheelhop, too much poly to flex in the front to back back motion
Its not the arm thats weak, they are exactly the same pretty much, its the mount in the rail that is known to break off.


Mr.Pink
Supreme Unit
Sleepy Goodness
"Beretta Guy"
User avatar
weba
Registered User
Posts: 1096
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:34 am
Location: Finland
Contact:

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by weba »

The control arms are weak, i bended both of mine (old style) to hell just by adjusting the Koni's tighter, and they aren't even that stiff on maximum stiffness when compared to real quality shocks... Now waiting how long control arms will last on my White car....


User avatar
woody90gtz
Registered User
Posts: 4698
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:45 pm
Location: Walton, NY
Contact:

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by woody90gtz »

3X00-Modified wrote:
Barry wrote:I haven't broken a old style arm yet. Mine are rust free and seam welded.

I think vertical bushings are a bad design. They defiantly promote wheelhop, too much poly to flex in the front to back back motion
Its not the arm thats weak, they are exactly the same pretty much, its the mount in the rail that is known to break off.
Do you have any pics of the weak area you're talking about? My subframes are still out of the car and the welder still has plenty of argon & wire...


91 "SS" - WOT 3400/5spd - 13.29@101.6 - World's fastest N/A FWD Beretta
96 "T56" LS/6spd/8.8 RWD swap - 13.45@104.7 lol
GEARHEAD dezign youtube
User avatar
3X00-Modified
Administrator
Posts: 10912
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:18 am
Location: Brooklyn CT

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by 3X00-Modified »

I'm not 100 percent positive on the area, I just remember being told this after I did the swap to 92 rails on my red car... and granted I never had any issues.

I may just end up using those after looking them over and evaluating it, and possibly welding stuff up, but it's just the fact that I need to get them out so it would wait till next year before I swap to them.

And yes Weba I know the arms are weak in that respect, but that wasn't the weakness that I was being told about, or speaking of.


Mr.Pink
Supreme Unit
Sleepy Goodness
"Beretta Guy"
User avatar
ErichZ26
Registered User
Posts: 922
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:59 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: 94-96 A-arms Poly Alternative

Post by ErichZ26 »

These control arms from a 2001 STS have a different compound on one side. It is harder much like the plastic/UHMW i am using for the rear suspension.
Image
Image
Image


Post Reply