Camaro carb to EFI project

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It always makes me smile knowing someone ditched a carb in favor of fuel injection. If I find a 96-01 vortec 5.7 (non LS) for the right price it's going in my 96 2wd s10


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daguse5853z wrote:It always makes me smile knowing someone ditched a carb in favor of fuel injection. If I find a 96-01 vortec 5.7 (non LS) for the right price it's going in my 96 2wd s10
Same with me, Carbs are for resto's and rednecks :P

I mean those who want to tune, but don't want to mess with the ECU's and computers.

Otherwise, there is no reason not too. You get better, more consistent performance, better mileage and lower emissions for those who are concerned about those things.


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Got the Hurricane manifold & rails. (Same carb height, but longer runners for better midrange.) Turns out it's a ProComp and the casting kinda looks like crap, but I'll clean it up. Came with ugly red anodized rails, but that's nothing a little oven cleaner can't fix. Photoshopped them black and I like the look.

Air cleaner height is actually exactly the same as the current AirGap since the TB is shorter and spacer is not needed. I've got 1" to play with to the cowl.

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Wish i could afford to mess around with my 84 firebird, had the car for over 10 years, was my fav car when i was a kid now i have one and i havent sat in it for about 5 years lol. Was a 6cyl 2.8 5 speed original. I have a 1968 350 010 compete motor.. I have 98 vortec heads i want to put on it and find a tuned port setup lots of 305/350 tuned ports around for $300-500 with wire harness.

Since i owned my first beretta my firebird has been untouched. too many projects on the go now lol pour car been sitting with new paint for 5 years.


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Scoggin-Dickey sells a TPI base for Vortec heads, but it is expensive. An OEM TPI intake will not fit Vortec heads. The bolt pattern and ports are different than the traditional SBC.


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woody90gtz wrote:Scoggin-Dickey sells a TPI base for Vortec heads, but it is expensive. An OEM TPI intake will not fit Vortec heads. The bolt pattern and ports are different than the traditional SBC.
I have not looked into it that much, i do know a tbi intake is different but you can also drill it to work so i have herd..
I want to stick with the vortec heads to maximize flow and i think with a tpi setup they will be great, but making it work is different story lol. I guess if i found a complete tpi 305 i could swap the 305 heads and bump compression and run the tpi intake might work just as well.. Seems to be more 305 tpi around then the 350's, and for around $300 for a complete engine with wire harness and ecm i have seen many forsale around that price.

The car is original v6 5 speed, i have had a 305 carb in it with a 700r4 but never seen the road legally lol burned lots of rubber off. i pulled that engine to build a nice 350 to go in and had the car repainted and never touched it since. Would like to get it going this winter maybe, i have the engine and trany sitting in my garage need to find a bell housing for firebird/camaro v8 preferably less then they sell on ebay for.. im not paying no $300 and need a clutch to go from b8 flywheel to v6 trany spline. Car has 3.42 gears, i know it will dance with a v8 in it, nothing but tire smoke everywhere you go, there is still chunks of rubber plastered inside the wheel wells from my younger days.

I think a nice tpi setup in it will be plenty to get it to dance when i want and be more fuel efficient then a carb.

Just seeing your engine and setup makes me want to go work on my old beast, very nice looking car and love the setup you got going. will be a while before my old beast is going, not as old as yours but i love this style.

Ive had my eye on a 69 firebird with a 400 small block 4 gear, has had body work done but mostly all is in primer ready for paint, all interior is there plus tons of spare parts, asking $4000 for it. Probably not a bad deal but right now id rather sink $4000 into the 3 berettas i have and get them mint before starting another endless project lol.


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Traditional small block, TBI and Vortec heads are all different. TBI & traditonal are the same except for the angle on the two middle bolts on both sides. Vortec has a different port configuration, and it is only 8-bolts instead of 12. There are none in the center.

You don't want to choke a 350 with 305 heads. yes, it bumps compression, but it also kills airflow with the smaller valves & runners.


I sold my 355 today for a pretty good price, so I'm excited to get building the new engine.


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Engine is going to a fellow NastyZ28'er. Glad to see it headed for the fenders of another Camaro! Yanked it this weekend and dropped in my spare 350 block for safe keeping of all the accessories, etc. Cars take up a lot less room assembled than apart and I have the Beretta to work on this winter. Mocked up the EFI manifold and the hood clearance is good to go, even with a small spacer.

I also bought a complete forged 383 short block from another Nasty member that comes with a roller cam that's about perfect for my setup. And some AFR 195 Eliminators from another member. Thank you NastyZ28 swap meet! Guessing about 500hp all said & done. Sold my 355 for $1700 and total cost of the built 383 with EFI will be about $4000. Not a bad upgrade for $2300. Cold-blooded 400hp carbed 2-bolt 350 with a stock bottom end and iron heads to a forged 4-bolt 383 with all forged internals, roller cam, aluminum heads & EFI.

Unfortunately, the car will probably be sitting for a while now. Once it is back in the garage after winter storage I'm going to blow it apart and do the whole thing. Paint, detailing & finishing touches. It will finally get the full attention to detail it deserves.

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changing engines like underwear LOL


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Camaro is out of the garage and in storage for the winter. Gives me some room to work on the Beretta now.


91 "SS" - WOT 3400/5spd - 13.29@101.6 - World's fastest N/A FWD Beretta
96 "T56" LS/6spd/8.8 RWD swap - 13.45@104.7 lol
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Picked up the 383 yesterday with Dozer and Tiff. Had to pull the short block myself, but it will be so worth it! Now I have everything I need but rockers & valve covers. I'm gonna strip it to the block and reassemble everything just to give it a once over before it goes in the car. Needs a cleaning but it looks good!

Final specs will be:
Forged & studded 4-bolt 383
11:1 CR
AFR 195 Eliminators
Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
Edelbrock roller cam (234/238*@.050 .575/.584")
Hurricane EFI manifold & 36lb injectors
1000cfm Edelbrock throttle body
Accel DFI computer & dizzy

This should be fun. Almost makes me want to postpone the Beretta again...hahaha

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91 "SS" - WOT 3400/5spd - 13.29@101.6 - World's fastest N/A FWD Beretta
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Man I miss small blocks.


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I need a real camera... LOL.

Motor is looking good.

Needs a snail... or two...


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I could go the power adder route with this rotating assembly...either nitrous or boost, but that would put me in the danger zone for the 6spd and rear end. That's ultimately why I decided against building the 421. And when you figure out the cost of hooking that much power, plus the cage and certifications to run it, it would get out of hand real quick price-wise. Not to mention the cage & 5-point belts in a street car.


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You only need that stuff if you actually put down that time... ;)


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