How much power would a crane cam add?

[GTU89]

I know it wouldn't add a whole lot of power, but has anyone done this before to the 2.8 on here? $146 doesn't seem like a bad deal at all, especially considering the sound you get Also, has anyone done one and not had to take the engine out?

http://www.summitracing.com/search/bran ... Rank%7cAsc

Also, sorry if this has been posted before, I just don't like the search on here because it doesn't give me results half the time, maybe its the internet browser I'm using?

[Money pit Beretta]

Boy you are taking me back many years. I'd say it was something like 7-10hp, 15hp tops,but that would be unheard of. You will need a chip and I hope you engine is rebuilt.Oh yes springs would be needed to.

[GTU89]

Nope, engine is as far as I know all original, with ~175K miles.

I know, minimal gain from a decent amount of work. But that sound...lol

[scd88ga]

Also, has anyone done one and not had to take the engine out?

What do you think? LOL Regardless, I don't know why you want to cam a worn out high mile engine. Do it once, and do it RIGHT!

[GTU89]

Well, obviously I was not sure or I wouldn't have asked, anyway that part was a bit stupid I admit, just a bit of stupid hopeful thinking.
I wouldn't consider it worn out, it has good oil pressure and all. And yes, I know if I take the engine out then I might as well rebuild it.

And okay, that's around the gains I was expecting. This probably won't happen for awhile as I should be focusing on my LeMans.

[3X00-Modified]

No, just go get a 3400 and put a cam in that and throw 3500 heads on it and then toss the old 2.8 to the JY... then you'll be happy

[GTU89]

Hah, what I really would like to do is get a 3800SC and throw it in. IIRC the 3400 is supposed to be "easier" to swap in than the 3800, right?

The 3400 can be gotten from a Impala, GM minivan..ect right? I've never heard of the 3500 other than on this site though.

[3X00-Modified]

Yes 3400 is typically more straight forward since you can keep the basic structure of the motor mount setups and it doesn't all have to be re-created. And engine control is easier to accomplish since the stock 89 ECU will run a 3400 as long as you tune it... I do not believe the 89 ECU would work a 3800 but I could be wrong.

3500 is mentioned on 60degreev6.com a lot. Its the last non VVT 3x00 motor that has interchangeable heads and intakes to the 3400's which are close to drop in engines for us.

[GTU89]

On the topic of engine swaps, does a 3100 from a late model Beretta swap right up? Or is there as much work involved as a 3400? I'm guessing that the motor mounts could be different due to it being a different engine than the 2.8/3.1.

I'm tempted to take a battery to the junkyard near me and throw it in the 3100 Base they have (its all complete, has half a tank of gas even lol) and see how it runs and maybe buy the motor.

Also, if I were to go the 3100 route it seems that there is a decent amount of aftermarket for it. has anyone built a 3100 up before on here?

[Barry]

Plenty of people have worked the 3400s up. Its mostly the same as the 3100

[Z26_T]

Check prices of engines local to you at car-parts.com
If you have the option, get a 3500 (unless using A/C is important to you). If you can't find a cheap 3500, drop in a 3400. Go to 60degreev6.com and talk to superdave. He can burn a chip for your ecm to use the 3400. If you're going to go through the hassle of an engine swap, there's no reason to drop in a 3100. Also search "engine swap" on this forum and the 60degree forum. That'll help you see what you'll need to do.

[3X00-Modified]

3100 swap requirements are exactly the same as 3400 for your car.

[Money pit Beretta]

If you like your 2.8 you are going to hate a 3100. I had a great love for my 3.1, but it needed to be rebuilt and have a cam. After the cars loss I went out after a 3100, found one and bought it. With a few mods I thought it would pep up, but it didn't.
I've heard good things about the 3400. That's about all I know of them.

[berettaboi]

superdave's 3500z24 on youtube sounds amazing... i happen across the video fairly often, and must watch from start to end every single time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mENh9Vyi ... ure=relmfu

[Kris GTwhat?]

If only you guys could of heard the car in person