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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Slinky » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:26 pm

woody90gtz wrote:How the hell did you do that?

Z26 is FE3, and that's the best you can get for a 95-96. I vaguely remember talk of a 66-98 GAGT rear axle swap that was supposed to be an upgrade, but I don't know the details.


I did a search a car-part.com for 95" beretta FE3 rear axle beam and it shows a bunch of 95" grand am rear axle beams mixed in, are they the same?


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Rettax3 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:09 am

Slinky wrote:
woody90gtz wrote:How the hell did you do that?

Z26 is FE3, and that's the best you can get for a 95-96. I vaguely remember talk of a 66-98 GAGT rear axle swap that was supposed to be an upgrade, but I don't know the details.


I did a search a car-part.com for 95" beretta FE3 rear axle beam and it shows a bunch of 95" grand am rear axle beams mixed in, are they the same?

Not sure what years GA fit (if any, but ALOT of components are the same from N-bodied GAs to out L-body Berettas/Corsicas/Tempests, so I think some years should)... I would think '92-98 would interchange with some year Berettas, but IDK which years are early-style, which years are later-style, and even '91 and earlier GAs might match early-style Berettas...

BUT, (and here is the good news) if you can salvage your rear sway-bar (it is a basically straight rod bolted inside the upside-down 'V' formed by the lateral (side-to-side) part of your rear axle), you can use it and your springs and shocks, the axle itself should be the same for any RPO code late-style axle, meaning that you DON'T need to find another Z-26 or "FE3" car...

I hope that helps.


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Slinky » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:23 am

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woody90gtz wrote:How the hell did you do that?

Z26 is FE3, and that's the best you can get for a 95-96. I vaguely remember talk of a 66-98 GAGT rear axle swap that was supposed to be an upgrade, but I don't know the details.


I did a search a car-part.com for 95" beretta FE3 rear axle beam and it shows a bunch of 95" grand am rear axle beams mixed in, are they the same?

Not sure what years GA fit (if any, but ALOT of components are the same from N-bodied GAs to out L-body Berettas/Corsicas/Tempests, so I think some years should)... I would think '92-98 would interchange with some year Berettas, but IDK which years are early-style, which years are later-style, and even '91 and earlier GAs might match early-style Berettas...

BUT, (and here is the good news) if you can salvage your rear sway-bar (it is a basically straight rod bolted inside the upside-down 'V' formed by the lateral (side-to-side) part of your rear axle), you can use it and your springs and shocks, the axle itself should be the same for any RPO code late-style axle, meaning that you DON'T need to find another Z-26 or "FE3" car...

I hope that helps.


Yeah sadly no FE3 berettas left within an hr of me in every direction, so im going to use an fe2 and put my z51 bar on until this fall when i switch shells..


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby 3X00-Modified » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:41 am

Rettax3 wrote:BUT, (and here is the good news) if you can salvage your rear sway-bar (it is a basically straight rod bolted inside the upside-down 'V' formed by the lateral (side-to-side) part of your rear axle), you can use it and your springs and shocks, the axle itself should be the same for any RPO code late-style axle, meaning that you DON'T need to find another Z-26 or "FE3" car...


Not for a 95+ z26... the stock internal bar is welded into the rear axle. Trust me I have one.



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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby heavywoody » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:57 am

If anyone remembers Pete Sprenger (he had a green/gray base, Z04 converted, was the first to put Z34 hood vents in, and autocrossed it...

Anyways, I remember him swapping a Grand Am rear axle in because the internal bar was supposedly a little bigger. I can't remember what year he used; I want to say it was a 95.


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Rettax3 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:53 pm

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Rettax3 wrote:BUT, (and here is the good news) if you can salvage your rear sway-bar (it is a basically straight rod bolted inside the upside-down 'V' formed by the lateral (side-to-side) part of your rear axle), you can use it and your springs and shocks, the axle itself should be the same for any RPO code late-style axle, meaning that you DON'T need to find another Z-26 or "FE3" car...


Not for a 95+ z26... the stock internal bar is welded into the rear axle. Trust me I have one.

You know, I don't think I ever actually looked at the rear sway of my '95 Z-26... :sorry: Sorry. I know I've been under the car a few times (I had to swap the fuel-pump since my niece kept running the car out of gas (the gauge read a little higher than what it actually had, so 'fumes' read just under 1/8 tank -so it isn't entirely her fault, but that shouldn't be a really steep learning-curve :pardon: ), and of course I had to find out if the car was a boy or a girl...
But Slinky, if you have a Z51 piggy-back anyway, you are already 80-90% of the way there.


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Rettax3 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:36 pm

...Fixed the lines for the air-shocks on the 'new' '88 Camaro... I needed these a few months ago when I was towing a car cross-country with it, but at least I can punk-hotrodder lift the back of my car now. :D

...Also finally looked at my old long-frame jack (not 'my ride', but this is very car related). The hydraulic piston plunger-cup is shot, the O-ring is chewed, and the spring for the check-valve ball is crumpled and broken. This in addition to one of two handle-return springs being broken... Since I am tired of it leaking on the ground, it has been retired until I can replace the packings and fix the check-valve. :(


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby 88gtz » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:52 am

Made a CAI for my 93 Quasar Quad :Yahoo!: It is an amazing difference how the car runs, I think the W-41 cams like the good air!

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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Money pit Beretta » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:58 am

I'd bet it's very happy. I sure don't like the stock system and I'm sure the engine felt the same way.
Were you able to get the IAT on that CAI?


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Asylum » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:05 am

Umm Where's the battery?


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby 88gtz » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:17 am

Money pit Beretta wrote:I'd bet it's very happy. I sure don't like the stock system and I'm sure the engine felt the same way.
Were you able to get the IAT on that CAI?


My quad doesn't have a IAT in the intake tube, I'm pretty sure its in the intake manifold :good:



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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby 88gtz » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:19 am

Asylum wrote:Umm Where's the battery?

That was a pic on mock up, I have normal hose clamps on it now so no pics until I get my t-clamps :oops: The battery fits just fine


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby Money pit Beretta » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:20 am

88gtz wrote:
Money pit Beretta wrote:I'd bet it's very happy. I sure don't like the stock system and I'm sure the engine felt the same way.
Were you able to get the IAT on that CAI?


My quad doesn't have a IAT in the intake tube, I'm pretty sure its in the intake manifold :good:

Strange, I'll check out dads 2.3 when I get a chance.


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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby 3X00-Modified » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:59 pm

Swore at it again since it's still on jackstands... F-in timing chain...



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Re: what did you do to your ride today?

Postby woody90gtz » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:26 pm

3X00-Modified wrote:Swore at it again since it's still on jackstands... F-in timing chain...


I swore at my friend in Chicago since my part still isn't here...


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