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He's got like three sets... those GTU's a set of cross lace and also the set of rims with his DR's on them.

I've got lots of wheels and I have never been all that in love with the GTU/Indy's.

Too much wheel and not enough openess.

Plus they weigh a ton.

If I can find a 225/50 16" DR I'm going to buy a set of 6 lighter wheels for next year.

A proper slick would be preferable, buy I can't use those in the class the car runs.

Light weight street wheels, who makes them? Or will they be drag only?

my DR-17's sold as light weight rims a while back, I'm not sure what their 16" rim weight is in comparison to the 16's that we have... Its worth asking though.

And there are many rim companies that do lightweight rims for daily use.

Just do not buy rota's. Google Image "rota wheels" to see some results on why.

They did look a little weak in the first photo I saw. The next one proved that.

1988GTU wrote:Just do not buy rota's. Google Image "rota wheels" to see some results on why.

Light weight is one thing, weak is another. Those things are junk and are not safe. The old Draglites would take hit and keep going.
Those DR-16's are not too bad. Hell, I don't even know what my wheels weigh. Something else to check in the summer.

Drag wheels, where did you guys buy your DR17's? Cheapest place? I like the DR-8's better.

From what I'm seeing, weight between 16 and 17" wheels is about the same. 18's go up in weight however. 17" 17lbs is better than Z26 23lb or whatever lol. But there is more weight on the outside though possibly. 15's are light, but only by about 2lbs, and you're going to get lots of sidewall flex in corners.

asylum wrote:

Money pit Beretta wrote:Wild, I'd like to see those. I don't have that kind of money though.

Someone will post a pic from NE last summer

I got my DR's from discount tire direct... 105 each shipped IIRC...

They have DR-8's for 110 right now and possibly free shipping... most of the time its free from there.

Mine are 110 now as well.

I don't like the thick spokes and the deep dish on the DR-8's

Deep dish is for pizza only. lol

Those are actually VERY similar to what I used to run.



These were 15" though and 35 offset. It was a bitch to find someone who could mount a tire on these because it had to be done backwards due to the deep front dish.

Also very wide stance due to the 35mm offset vs the 40... They were even with my front flares, and rubbed the rears after I did my rear disc swap, I had to roll quite a bit to clear those tires and rims.

Jon, DTD has them plus $50 off set of 4 right now. Comes to like $435 with lugs. Do you need hub centric rings or anything with these wheels?

The only thing I don't like about the D17's is the 5 spokes aren't the traditional star shape, they are rounded and thin. IMO it makes the wheels look smaller than they are. Your 17's look like 15's, sometimes 14's at times to me!!

I like deep dishes.. Always have. What makes them hard to put a tire on? I guess it depends what type of machine they use.

The spokes aren't as thick as those. The DR8 taper down skinnier towards the ends, and are more flat with less of a bulge.



What size tire were on those 15" wheels?

Ideally, I'd like a wheel like the DR8, but without the ridges on the edges of the spokes, and the spokes going straight out instead of bent at the ends. Everything else I like, the deep dish, 5 spoke going narrow at the ends. Wheels can't cost a ton or be heavy though. Any other brands to look at?

Those were some 225 flavor of a 15" tire, I can't remember but it was the proper 24.9-25" diameter.

Hence why I said "similar" on the rim style.

Also how in the hell does a rim with a 40 profile tire on it thats 25" diameter look like a 14" rim? Where are you looking?

You shouldn't need hub-centric rings, I always used the lugs to do that job, but no they are not the same size as a stock center hub, so if you want to use that to center them instead of the lugs then yes you need rings.

There is just more of a radius transition between the spoke and the center hub, that's the only difference as far as "traditional star shape" that you speak of... (never knew there was a traditional)... Also, Deep dish without bent ends of the spokes are next to impossible to find... that's what makes a deep dish a deep dish...

And the reason for difficulty to mount a tire is the front dish is so deep the center of the rim where the bead wont be touching all the way around is further down... If you've never personally mounted or dismounted a tire on a manual machine, then this is not something that's easy to explain, When you break a bead, there is ridge just behind where the bead is, you need to push the bead below this ridge to offset the tire on the rim to allow you to pry one side of the bead over the rim lip, now with a traditional tire your already damn near close to the limit to do this, with a deep dish your making that ridge deeper so now you need to push the bead further down before its off that ridge, and now your beyond the stretching/prying ability of the bead to get it off that side of the tire. So holding the tire upside down is what you need to do and mount/dismount the tire from the back of the rim.

And what you said was exactly the problem I had... FINDING someone with the right tire machine that would hold the tire upside down without scratching the lip. Maybe its just that I live out in a non city area so finding places to do this is much harder... at least places that are close to me, and not a BS chain like Town Fair Tire that I don't trust. I don't even think that the Dealership that I usually go to would have been capable of this, that might have been due to lack of knowledge of the user though. I went to a Goodyear shop and they charged me extra for being an exotic rim too... Now my local guy I know has a machine that will do it perfectly, but I've sold those rims so I no longer have this issue.

That huge ass chrome lip looks like a 14" rim? Your [cack crazy voice]crazy[/cack crazy voice]

225 15" are expensive tires! and rare! The explanation of the bead and mounting the tire makes perfect sense.

Those shots there look big because you see the lip and not the center. When looking at the center (better light, or silver centers) it makes it look small. Just the pattern of the 5spoke makes the wheel look tiny to me. _shrug_

Here is sort of what I'm talking about with the spokes not curving in. I see a lot of 6 and 7 spoke wheels with deep dish that don't curve in like this. In fact I like this wheel other than the blue line and it not being available in gun metal... LOL


Here is what the Drag DR8s look like: Not bad I think.


Do Z26 wheels even center hub-centrically? I can't recall. I know the steelies do, but the Z26 wheels I always finger tighten the lugs to center it before using a ratchet even.

Yes I would imagine they are center hub-centric, you may be noticing the slop in rotation when tightening up the lugs since the stud through hole on the rim are larger diameter than the studs are, so the rim can twist a little before being bolted down.

GTZ rims are center hub-centric, so I can only assume that the Z26's would be the same.

225/55/15 is the proper diameter BTW... its 24.7, the same diameter as 195/70/14's, the 205/55/16 flavor end up being 24.9"

IIRC those Kumho tires I bought were about 60 each, and I replaced them with Kumho MX's approx 100 each just before bfest 06 and right after that, 3k miles, I sold the combo to someone here at work... They still have the same tires on there and there is very good tread left. Its amazing what a good alignment can do to tire life.