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Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:51 am
by 3X00-Modified
carquest has a PN 53-7766 But it says discontinued when stock exhausted... and their shitty site will NOT let me search the number without entering a location then tells me all the stores in my area don't support buy online pickup in store so I can't even search for parts... Fin stupid!

http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/carqu ... .html#1322

Bottom left page.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:54 am
by 3X00-Modified
I also found this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/321148620884?lpid=82

This page says the Standard Motor Products TS277 switch is a replacement.

http://www.oehq.com/oeparts_10137646.htm

Is this the right connector?

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Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:56 pm
by Hawk2010
Have you checked the egr to make sure it isn't sticking open? When stuck open, the engine will not idle. Also, have you checked the knock sensor? I think on some models there is a knock sensor module under the little door on computer.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:02 pm
by Wisconsinite
Thanks, I think the EGR is okay. I don't know about the knock sensor.

With the new fuel pump the car is functional. I'm done working on it, so this thread might be done too. We actually bought a Prius for commuting, so the Beretta will only be driven occasionally. Might be time to sell it, actually. Though I don't expect to get much.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:05 pm
by 3X00-Modified
Did you ever replace the temp sensor?

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:03 am
by Wisconsinite
No, since it tested fine on the appropriate pins I left it alone.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by mkgearhead
3X00-Modified wrote:Is this the right connector?

Yup, that's the right connector.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:12 pm
by BerettaMN
This place says they have 22 of that part number you have mkgearhead.

Dealer Contact Info
Collectors Auto Oroville Gm
OROVILLE, WA 98844
800-414-4462

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:13 am
by 3X00-Modified
Does anyone ever read what I post? There are alternate part numbers provided by aftermarket companies.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:20 am
by BerettaMN
Was just saying in case he wanted oem

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:26 pm
by Wisconsinite
I'm selling the car discussed in this thread. Thank you all for your help, keep those Berettas rolling!

http://www.beretta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17110

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:25 pm
by 1988GTU
Have you pulled the battery cables off at all completely? If not, do so and leave them off for at least 15 minutes. Then reconnect and go see if it changes anything for the car.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:38 pm
by Wisconsinite
I've tried that a few times, even leaving it over night. It still runs poorly next time.

The thing that boggles me is that it starts out with no power, wanting to stall, etc. Once it warms up it runs okay (not great) but there's a sudden transition between the two states. I can actually hear it pep up suddenly, and then it can make it out the driveway. I wonder if the computer switches modes once the coolant temp hits a certain level, or something happens to the gas/air mixture.

I have an interested buyer who owns another '93. So he might be able to narrow it down by swapping parts or PCM. I'll even tell him about this thread, he can pick up where I left off.

Me? I'm learning to maintain a 2002 Prius, which is a fun little car (though not much room under the hood). Fortunately it is another car with an active forum community.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:51 pm
by 1988GTU
Hard starting lack of power when cold def points to a CTS sensor, but you've replace the CTS for the ECM from, or you didnt and I just assumed you did both the CTS for the IP and ECM.

Could also unplug the knock sensor and see if that changes anything.

Re: Chronic Stalling Problem 93 Beretta

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:23 pm
by Wisconsinite
I actually didn't replace the CTS. It tested fine, so it seems to be feeding good information to the computer.

Knock sensor sounds plausible. If I get a chance I'll disconnect it and see what happens.