Turns off in drive/reverse/1/2

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Awesome stance zcylex! Hope u stick around for a lonnngg time bud.


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@rettax3

Yes i have some pics of the car in the members rides sections, however i have many new pics i havent got the time to upload yet. Added a pic just to show you how it looks right now lol more pics coming soon as im getting most parts next week

@3X00

No offense taken I'm not a fan of unplugging and forgetting myself. I just wanted a way to get the car up and running to come back home thats all, i allready ordered the new tcc and will be installing it in a few weeks

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I do plan to stick around for a long time in the forum, and look forward to being more active here in the forum. :)


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Oh yes, thank you, I do remember your car now. I especially recall the wheels -back before I bought my first Beretta (my '90 Turbo), I had actually bought one of those wheels as a replacement for the previous owner until I was able to locate an exact replacement, since I had bent one of the original steel wheels against a curb while avoiding a car that shot across two lanes of traffic during an illegal merge. I love those wheels, they look great on these cars. I think I still have that one spare... :pardon: That is really a decent looking 'Retta -you have a good car to start with for a complete resto. :good:


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Just went thru this with my 90 GT. It would stall and die when taking off. It acted like a manual leaving it in 5th gear and trying to take off. It was the TCC solenoid. My car has the 125 trans. Replaced the solenoid and changed trans fluid and filter.. now all good.


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Hi, guys, new member here.
I just love this forum. Have been reading it for almost a year, and have learned a lot from you guys.
I bought a 1991 Beretta auto to replace a 1998 Subaru Impresa Sport that the wife crashed, (loved that car, bullet proof.), and am having the same problem with the TCC., but it's winter here in CT. so will disconnect it from the trans., and wait for warm weather to replace it. I would take the car into the garage, but it is occupied with my 1963 Corvair conv..
My DD is a 2010 Kia Soul Sport with a 5 speed, that I just love.
Thanks, for the good info. on the site.
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Welcome to the site, afragasr! Glad we have been able to help inform and entertain :wink: .


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i just got the dealer to install a new tcc into my 1989 beretta and it really only does reduce the RPM by about 100 revs on the highway. Still with that 2.8 i only get about 17-20MPG


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:o Next time I get my Yellow Indy up to speed, I'll double-check exact numbers, but I think I'm dropping that many RPMs at 40 MPH... I'm also getting pretty consistent 28+ MPG, mixed city/highway mostly back-roads driving. I do have a 3.1 of course, and it is in really good tune, but it shouldn't be that different. It sounds like something is wrong with your engine or tranny... :unknown:


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1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
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themixer wrote:i just got the dealer to install a new tcc into my 1989 beretta and it really only does reduce the RPM by about 100 revs on the highway. Still with that 2.8 i only get about 17-20MPG
That sounds right. stupid TCC idea.


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1988GTU wrote:
themixer wrote:i just got the dealer to install a new tcc into my 1989 beretta and it really only does reduce the RPM by about 100 revs on the highway. Still with that 2.8 i only get about 17-20MPG
That sounds right. stupid TCC idea.
No, not really. Okay, so here it is. It is really difficult to get a decent reading on the tach while in third gear at that speed because 1. the RPMs vary widely depending on throttle setting without the TCC engaged due to the torque-converter slippage, and 2. it is also very hard to have the car at 40 MPH WITHOUT the TCC engaging or kicking down to second -it is a pretty fine line on my car, and tough to have the road speed at 40 while balancing the accelerator for long enough to get anything accurate from the tach. But here it is, as best as I could do.

In second gear with moderate throttle at 40 MPH, I am seeing about 2900 RPMs. In third (Drive) without the TCC engaged and with moderate to slightly heavy throttle, I am getting about 2250-2300 RPMs, which seems pretty high to me. At 40MPH, in third with the TCC engaged, I am running at 1600 RPMs. So yeah, a 650-700 RPM drop at 40 MPH because of the 'stupid, worthless, etc' TCC. Sounds good to me, keep me signed up for that POS until I get my five-speed swapped into this car. :good:

Under neutral throttle at 40 MPH, yes, I am only seeing about 100-150 RPM difference with the TCC, but that is kind of the point, isn't it? You get to give the car a little extra juice without just spinning slush around a little faster. It is at higher throttle settings that the RPM difference really lights up. If I was planning on keeping this tranny in the car, I would definitely put in a manual-control override circuit to engage the TCC whenever I wanted. Personally, I love the thing, as much as I love any aspect of a slush-box... To everyone else, well... :P


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1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
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yea, yeas really mannn, it's only ever been about 100-150 rpm difference for the 3t40 v6's that i've driven and owned.

Gimmie a real over drive !!!!!!


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:pardon: Facts are what they are. Under neutral throttle, there really isn't that much RPM difference, it is under acceleration that the difference is dramatic. But I hear what you are saying, a real OD is a solid plus, and three forward gears is at least two too little for this era car. Personally, I say give me a real transmission, give me a clutch! :wink:


1989 SuperCharged 3800 Srs-II (First)Six-Speed GTU
1990 Turbo 3.4 5-Speed T-Type
1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
1990 Stock(!) 3.1 MPFI Auto Indy
1995 LA1/L82 4T60E Z-26
1995 3.4 DOHC Turbo 5-Speed Z-26
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