Possible Northstar V8

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Possible Northstar V8

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If I can't find a harness for my quad 4 GTZ 5 speed within 3 months I'm possibly considering doing a northstar swap to it there is a thread on cadillac forums about a guy doin it in a beretta and I'm gonna ask him if he ever finished and what all he modified to fit it, but my question is for this project is there a possible conversion plate for a 60° v6 to adapt the getrag 5 speed or did they make a getrag for a v6 cause I want a rather heavy duty front wheel drive manual adapted to this motor let me know what you think
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i can get a 94 quad 5 speed harness if that will work... if the car is still there

and what does a v6 trany have to do with mating to a northstar engine ? thats a v8
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i don't think he finished it... i can't remember who that was, but like most projects, it just faded away i think.
4th one's a charm, 5th one is, beginnning to sound like this is an addiction...
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beretta wrote:i can get a 94 quad 5 speed harness if that will work... if the car is still there

and what does a v6 trany have to do with mating to a northstar engine ? thats a v8
the northstar is the same bolt pattern as a 60°, but I can get my hands on an lt1 police interceptor with harness for about $600 from my buddy and if I can mate that to my getrag and get it to work up front instead of rwding it it will hook and run like a SOB
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad,226 cams, 3.94 W-41 trans
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad 4, 3.61 muncie 5 speed (project)
1968 Chevelle 300 deluxe 327ci 4 speed M-21, 12 bolt 4.10 posi
1978 Chevy K10 Z77 Sport 4x4
1977 GMC Sierra Classic 25 454 crew cab
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beretta wrote:i can get a 94 quad 5 speed harness if that will work... if the car is still there

and what does a v6 trany have to do with mating to a northstar engine ? thats a v8
it has to be 90 to make my gauges work thanks anyway though I was kinda wantin to stay with obd1 and not 1.5
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad,226 cams, 3.94 W-41 trans
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad 4, 3.61 muncie 5 speed (project)
1968 Chevelle 300 deluxe 327ci 4 speed M-21, 12 bolt 4.10 posi
1978 Chevy K10 Z77 Sport 4x4
1977 GMC Sierra Classic 25 454 crew cab
-Ryan
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Or possibly thinking like a 5.3L swap ;) painless makes a nice harness to make it run the hard part would be fitting it and getting the interior stuff working too, possibly might use a 06-07 Monte Carlo 5.3 cradle or impala 5.3 cradle I think they are the same, do some measurements and see how much my wheels would stick out, now I gotta search for an adapter plate to adapt my getrag to it cause that will be bad a**
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad,226 cams, 3.94 W-41 trans
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad 4, 3.61 muncie 5 speed (project)
1968 Chevelle 300 deluxe 327ci 4 speed M-21, 12 bolt 4.10 posi
1978 Chevy K10 Z77 Sport 4x4
1977 GMC Sierra Classic 25 454 crew cab
-Ryan
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you are hoping to stay front wheel drive? you may be modifying the firewall and the positioning of many things in the engine bay to squeeze in the larger engine and transmission that can handle the power.
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http://www.chrfab.com/
I have been looking into the northstar for a little while now and am seriously considering it... I can get a N* for the same price from Pick-n-Pull as I can a 3400/3500... Obviously engine management is going to be different from stock, but if I overlay a Megasquirt with my original ecu I should get cluster readout to work fine, and here in NY, before '96, there are no emissions tests outside of NYC. So I would be golden. I am going to contact CHRfab to get some details such as flywheel usage.
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Some of these Engines came with Forged cranks, and others with forged rods... 2000+ can run 87 octane and make 295HP out of the box. plus the engine (undressed weights) is only 75lb heavier than a V6.
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as far as actually fitting, people put these engines in fieros all the time plus this guy put one in a cavalier! http://www.stanceiseverything.com/tag/n ... -cavalier/
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I'm torn between building a nice w41 beast quad 4 with a crap load of add ons or putting a northstar in there
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad,226 cams, 3.94 W-41 trans
1990 Beretta GTZ Quad 4, 3.61 muncie 5 speed (project)
1968 Chevelle 300 deluxe 327ci 4 speed M-21, 12 bolt 4.10 posi
1978 Chevy K10 Z77 Sport 4x4
1977 GMC Sierra Classic 25 454 crew cab
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a w41 quad makes 180 hp. I don't know what kind of power you can make with it though... a northstar makes nearly 300hp. remove the P/S pump and add a electric one from a MR2 and you will be over 300hp. almost twice the power but still reliable once you switch to studs for the heads.
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Making it run is the easy part. Its mounting it in the car that is the most difficult part. Considering these motors mount to a subframe, and our cars arent setup for that style of a setup. So we're talking complete custom subframe, along with everything else
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dibs on the old quad 4 engine please!!! =D
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